If you listen very carefully to his words, RFK Jr.’s stance on vaccines is identical to that of Alan Dershowitz. ‘We need safe vaccines.’ ‘The government should not be mandating untested products.’ Companies should not have liability unless their products are proven 100% safe.’ Blah, blah, blah. Translation, tyranny is good as long as it’s ‘safe.’ And who, pray tell ‘Bobby’ can we trust 100% to guarantee our ‘safety?’ Utilitarian turtles all the way down to Hell. This is the same guy who said those who question ‘climate science,’ an oxymoron even more absurd that ‘vaccine science.’ Bobby is and was always a very charming snake.
I would be happy with a shift in the direction of RFK Jr.s position and hopefully this will now happen.
You need to bear in mind that if he shouts 'all vaccines are bad' that it is an assumption because there could be a good vaccine and he would then earn the pejorative 'antio-vaxxer' which would loose him political support for NO GAIN. However if he says he is in favor of safe vaccines as he has always said he can claim to be in favor of 'safe' vaccines and avoid the anti-vaxx label.
As he gains some power to further his goal of having 'safe' and double blind placebo controlled long term safety trials for vaccines being required it will become CLEAR to everyone that there is no safe vaccine at this time and he will achieve YOUR goal without wasting his political capital by donning the disabling anti-vaxx mantel.
So I would MUCH RATHER that RFK Jr. called for safe vaccines than disappeared as an anti-vaxxer and in the end result I believe you would too.
As for vaccine mandates, the same goes. If you could show without a doubt that there is a nation ending event that could be prevented with a vaccine (or other) mandate then there is a case to be made. The bar should be very high but if it was reached then the debate should be held. Preventing the hospitals from being swamped or granny getting covid are not remotely serious enough outcomes to require investigating mandates in my view. The example of anthrax is interesting because if it spreads widely the residual spores can 'poison' large tracts of land from practical use for (very) many decades and could be held as an example of national interest overriding personal freedoms. Alternatives should be available and informed consent should still hold but it would be a serious matter.
There are very few things in life that are 100% black or white, some things might reach 99% in the eyes of a reasonable person but special cases often exist if you are open to reason.
All vaccines produce harm. That's the only honest scientific position. Deal making is what got us to 72 vaccines for kids. The true number of safe vaccines is the Amish number, zero.
As it so happens I do agree with you. Injecting foreign proteins past our primary immune defenses is a bad idea, adding adjuvants and what not worsens the odds of getting some bad outcome.
However the deal that RFK Jr. is making will EXPOSE what you fear. He is pushing to have an "honest scientific position" so that everyone can see that the Amish are correct. However going all commando in the public press will simply get RFK Jr. cancelled and we loose a likely champion.
Our goal is the same, I am more pragmatic that is all, I will take the official scientific route to what we want while you are hoping that good human nature will suddenly appear and deliver the outcome by some epiphany amongst the leaders.
Just saying it will not make it so.
RFK Jr. Will get the system to grudgingly accept 'safe' vaccines as a goal because he already knows that is not an achievable goal.
I don't like it either but RFK Jr. is the best we have and I am going to take that as a cautious win. Come January we will see how much good he tries to do and how much he achieves.
He has a web page open where anyone can recommend health advocates that he will try and place into positions of authority where they can do the most good. Perhaps he is creating a cancel list or perhaps he is looking for the smartest and most effective minds to change health policy for the better as fast as possible. The people he will use will hopefully be those without ties to pharma, lobby or government so they can make honest choices.
So I think you need to ask your questions of RFK Jr. first in private and off the record AFTER the change of power and then decide if his goals match yours. Not all strategy can be open while it is incubated but when he leaves the administration he may be able to give you the answers you want.
I would be happy with a shift in the direction of RFK Jr.s position and hopefully this will now happen.
You need to bear in mind that if he shouts 'all vaccines are bad' that it is an assumption because there could be a good vaccine and he would then earn the pejorative 'antio-vaxxer' which would loose him political support for NO GAIN. However if he says he is in favor of safe vaccines as he has always said he can claim to be in favor of 'safe' vaccines and avoid the anti-vaxx label.
As he gains some power to further his goal of having 'safe' and double blind placebo controlled long term safety trials for vaccines being required it will become CLEAR to everyone that there is no safe vaccine at this time and he will achieve YOUR goal without wasting his political capital by donning the disabling anti-vaxx mantel.
So I would MUCH RATHER that RFK Jr. called for safe vaccines than disappeared as an anti-vaxxer and in the end result I believe you would too.
As for vaccine mandates, the same goes. If you could show without a doubt that there is a nation ending event that could be prevented with a vaccine (or other) mandate then there is a case to be made. The bar should be very high but if it was reached then the debate should be held. Preventing the hospitals from being swamped or granny getting covid are not remotely serious enough outcomes to require investigating mandates in my view. The example of anthrax is interesting because if it spreads widely the residual spores can 'poison' large tracts of land from practical use for (very) many decades and could be held as an example of national interest overriding personal freedoms. Alternatives should be available and informed consent should still hold but it would be a serious matter.
There are very few things in life that are 100% black or white, some things might reach 99% in the eyes of a reasonable person but special cases often exist if you are open to reason.
All vaccines produce harm. That's the only honest scientific position. Deal making is what got us to 72 vaccines for kids. The true number of safe vaccines is the Amish number, zero.
As it so happens I do agree with you. Injecting foreign proteins past our primary immune defenses is a bad idea, adding adjuvants and what not worsens the odds of getting some bad outcome.
However the deal that RFK Jr. is making will EXPOSE what you fear. He is pushing to have an "honest scientific position" so that everyone can see that the Amish are correct. However going all commando in the public press will simply get RFK Jr. cancelled and we loose a likely champion.
Our goal is the same, I am more pragmatic that is all, I will take the official scientific route to what we want while you are hoping that good human nature will suddenly appear and deliver the outcome by some epiphany amongst the leaders.
Just saying it will not make it so.
RFK Jr. Will get the system to grudgingly accept 'safe' vaccines as a goal because he already knows that is not an achievable goal.
I don't like 4-D chess because it makes it impossible to see who's honest and allows bad actors to hide.
I don't like it either but RFK Jr. is the best we have and I am going to take that as a cautious win. Come January we will see how much good he tries to do and how much he achieves.
He has a web page open where anyone can recommend health advocates that he will try and place into positions of authority where they can do the most good. Perhaps he is creating a cancel list or perhaps he is looking for the smartest and most effective minds to change health policy for the better as fast as possible. The people he will use will hopefully be those without ties to pharma, lobby or government so they can make honest choices.
So I think you need to ask your questions of RFK Jr. first in private and off the record AFTER the change of power and then decide if his goals match yours. Not all strategy can be open while it is incubated but when he leaves the administration he may be able to give you the answers you want.