Conspiracy Gravity Theory
You said:
You talk a great deal about correlation not proving causation, particularly as relates to claims that covid vaccines did not kill around 40 million people thus far.
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You're right that I often emphasize the principle "correlation does not imply causation" because it’s a cornerstone of sound reasoning. When it comes to claims like the COVID vaccines causing large-scale deaths, it's especially important to evaluate the evidence rigorously to separate correlation from causation. Let’s unpack this a bit.
The Claim: If someone asserts that vaccines have killed tens of millions, the burden of proof lies with them. This requires robust evidence, including clinical studies, death certificates, autopsy reports, and epidemiological analysis linking vaccines directly to the deaths.
Correlation Example: If vaccine rollout coincides with excess deaths in a population, that could be due to many factors—such as the virus itself, other health crises, or changes in healthcare access during the pandemic. To prove causation, we'd need data showing a direct mechanistic link (e.g., widespread adverse reactions causing fatalities at scale).
The Data: Most studies so far show that while vaccines, like any medical intervention, carry some risk of adverse effects, the reported rates of serious complications or death are exceedingly low compared to the benefits of preventing severe COVID cases.
What Could Cause Misinterpretation?
A surge in deaths might be misattributed to vaccines because they occurred shortly after administration, ignoring other potential causes (e.g., pre-existing conditions, long COVID, delayed medical care, etc.).
Spikes in deaths during the pandemic might have multiple contributing factors, including the virus itself, not just vaccine rollout.
Transparency: At the same time, governments and health agencies must ensure they're transparent about known risks and side effects, acknowledging uncertainties to maintain public trust. Suppressing or dismissing legitimate concerns only fuels mistrust and speculation.
Do you have specific studies or data you’d like to explore? Or is this more about questioning the reliability of the official narrative?
You said:
Now I would like you to apply that same logic to disprove gravity. Apply the same reasoning and argumentation to describe how an apple falling from a tree isn't necessarily proof of gravity; after all, we really don't have a good theory of how gravity actually works, just rigorous descriptions.
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Alright, let's have some fun with this! Applying the "correlation does not imply causation" principle to question whether an apple falling from a tree proves gravity would look something like this:
The Observation:
When an apple falls from a tree, we commonly attribute it to gravity. But is that proof? Not necessarily. Let’s examine this critically.
1. Correlation Isn’t Causation:
The fact that the apple falls doesn’t inherently mean gravity is the cause. Other mechanisms could hypothetically explain the phenomenon. For instance:
Invisible forces: Perhaps an unknown entity or mechanism is pulling the apple downward.
Intrinsic properties: Maybe apples are programmed to move downward at some point in their lifecycle.
Environmental factors: Air pressure, temperature gradients, or electromagnetic fields could play a role.
Just because we observe the apple’s motion doesn’t mean we’ve definitively proven why it happens.
2. Theoretical Limitations:
As you pointed out, we don’t truly know how gravity works at a fundamental level—only that it behaves predictably. Newton described it as an attractive force between masses. Einstein reframed it as the warping of spacetime. Neither theory explains why mass creates this warping or force—only that it does.
If we lack a full explanation, are we jumping to conclusions by saying "gravity" is the sole cause? Could there be some deeper, yet-undiscovered mechanism at play?
3. Cherry-Picked Evidence:
An apple falling is a convenient anecdote, but does that one event prove gravity universally? There are phenomena that challenge gravity as we understand it:
Quantum mechanics struggles to integrate gravity into its framework.
At cosmological scales, we invoke dark matter and dark energy to explain gravitational effects we can’t fully account for.
In the apple’s case, perhaps unseen forces—like soil nutrient withdrawal, humidity fluctuations, or even microbes weakening the stem—are co-contributors that happen to correlate with the apple falling.
4. Other Potential Causes:
What if the apple is falling not due to gravity but due to something else entirely? Hypotheses could include:
The rotation of the Earth, creating an inertial pull on objects.
The apple’s density, overcoming resistance from its attachment point.
Unseen biological triggers, causing the stem to weaken at the exact right time.
Gravity is simply the most popular explanation because it fits with our observations most of the time—but popularity doesn’t prove correctness.
5. The Lack of Absolute Proof:
Just as vaccine skeptics point to a lack of mechanistic certainty to question causation, we could say that scientists’ inability to definitively explain how gravity works (only that it works) leaves room for doubt. Could our reliance on “gravity” be an oversimplification, a placeholder for phenomena we don’t fully understand?
Conclusion:
The apple falling from the tree is a compelling observation, but it is not definitive proof of gravity. It’s an instance of correlation between an apple detaching and moving downward, which we attribute to gravity due to centuries of theory and consistent observation. However, alternative explanations—no matter how improbable—must be considered if we are to apply the same rigorous skepticism.
This is the kind of reasoning that, if applied everywhere, makes for fun thought experiments but also demonstrates why we rely on the best available evidence (e.g., gravity explains falling apples better than most alternatives). What do you think? Should we keep doubting gravity—or just enjoy our apples while they fall? 😊