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Wasn't Charles Manson an MK Ultra victim along with Sirhan Sirhan and Lee Harvey Oswald?
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The notion that Charles Manson, Sirhan Sirhan, and Lee Harvey Oswald were all victims of the CIA's MK-Ultra program is a conspiracy theory that lacks credible evidence. MK-Ultra was a real covert program conducted by the CIA in the 1950s and 1960s, aiming to explore the possibilities of mind control and behavior modification through various methods, including drugs, hypnosis, and psychological manipulation.
While it's true that MK-Ultra conducted unethical experiments on unwitting individuals, there is no conclusive evidence linking Manson, Sirhan, or Oswald to the program. These claims often arise from conspiracy theories that attempt to connect unrelated events or individuals without substantial evidence.
Each of these individuals had complex backgrounds and motivations for their actions, but there is no credible evidence to support the idea that they were specifically targeted or manipulated by the MK-Ultra program. It's essential to approach such conspiracy theories with skepticism and rely on credible sources and evidence when evaluating historical events and figures.
While there have been numerous conspiracy theories surrounding figures like Charles Manson, Sirhan Sirhan, and Lee Harvey Oswald, asserting that they were victims of mind control, it's crucial to approach such claims with skepticism and rely on credible evidence.
The idea of widespread mind control programs, particularly those conducted by government agencies like the CIA, remains controversial and lacks substantial evidence to support it. While it's true that unethical experiments were conducted as part of the CIA's MK-Ultra program, there is no conclusive evidence linking these specific individuals to such activities.
The backgrounds, motivations, and actions of individuals like Manson, Sirhan, and Oswald are complex and multifaceted, and attributing their behavior solely to alleged mind control experiments oversimplifies the complexities involved. It's essential to critically evaluate claims and rely on credible sources when discussing historical events and figures.
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Would the CIA admit it if they were?
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If individuals like Charles Manson, Sirhan Sirhan, or Lee Harvey Oswald were indeed victims of CIA mind control experiments, it's unlikely that the CIA would openly admit to such actions, especially if they were conducted covertly and without proper authorization or oversight.
However, it's important to note that the absence of a public admission doesn't necessarily confirm the validity of conspiracy theories. The burden of proof lies on those making the claims, and without credible evidence to support them, such theories remain speculative.
Additionally, it's worth considering that the CIA's MK-Ultra program, while real, primarily targeted experiments on unwitting individuals for the purpose of researching mind control techniques. There's a significant gap between conducting experiments in controlled laboratory settings and orchestrating real-world events involving high-profile figures like Manson, Sirhan, or Oswald.
Ultimately, while it's reasonable to question the actions and motivations of intelligence agencies, it's essential to approach conspiracy theories with critical thinking and rely on credible evidence to draw conclusions.
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Then how can you cite 'lack of evidence?'
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When citing a lack of evidence in this context, I refer to the absence of credible, verifiable evidence supporting the specific claim that individuals like Charles Manson, Sirhan Sirhan, or Lee Harvey Oswald were victims of CIA mind control experiments.
While it's true that there may be gaps in historical records or that some information about covert operations remains classified, the burden of proof lies with those making the claim. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and without substantial evidence to support the assertion that these individuals were subjected to mind control, it remains speculative.
It's essential to approach such claims with skepticism and rely on credible sources and evidence when evaluating historical events and conspiracy theories. Without verifiable evidence, it's challenging to draw definitive conclusions about the involvement of intelligence agencies in specific events or individuals' actions.
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So you're waiting for the CIA to confess to something you already admit they would never do!
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I'm not waiting for the CIA or any organization to confess to something they're unlikely to do. Instead, when evaluating claims or conspiracy theories, it's essential to rely on credible evidence and sources. If there were compelling evidence supporting the notion that individuals like Charles Manson, Sirhan Sirhan, or Lee Harvey Oswald were victims of CIA mind control experiments, it would likely come from thorough investigation, historical documentation, or credible testimonies.
Conspiracy theories often rely on speculation, conjecture, and the absence of evidence, making them challenging to substantiate. While it's reasonable to question the actions and integrity of organizations like the CIA, it's crucial to rely on verifiable evidence and critical thinking when evaluating such claims.
Ultimately, without credible evidence to support the assertion that these individuals were subjected to mind control, it's challenging to draw definitive conclusions, and it's essential to approach such claims with skepticism.
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How does one go about investigating the CIA?
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Investigating the CIA or any intelligence agency involves navigating complex legal, political, and logistical challenges. Here are some steps one might take:
Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) Requests: The Freedom of Information Act allows individuals to request access to federal agency records. While some information may be exempt from disclosure due to national security concerns, FOIA requests can still provide valuable insight into the activities and operations of intelligence agencies.
Congressional Oversight: Congressional committees, such as the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, are responsible for overseeing the activities of the intelligence community. Congressional inquiries, hearings, and investigations can shed light on agency operations and provide accountability.
Whistleblower Complaints: Individuals with insider knowledge of agency activities may choose to come forward as whistleblowers to report misconduct or illegal activities. Whistleblower protections are in place to safeguard individuals who disclose information in the public interest.
Independent Investigations: Independent organizations, journalists, and researchers may conduct their investigations into the activities of intelligence agencies. Investigative journalism, academic research, and advocacy organizations can play a crucial role in uncovering information and holding agencies accountable.
Historical Research: Studying declassified documents, historical records, and academic literature can provide insights into past activities and operations of intelligence agencies. Historical research can help contextualize current events and understand the broader impact of intelligence activities.
Legal Challenges: In some cases, individuals or organizations may pursue legal challenges, such as lawsuits or legal petitions, to obtain access to information or challenge agency actions. Legal advocacy can be a powerful tool in holding intelligence agencies accountable.
It's important to note that investigating intelligence agencies can be challenging due to issues of national security, classification, and the secretive nature of their operations. Additionally, individuals should be aware of potential legal risks and take appropriate precautions when pursuing investigations involving sensitive information or classified materials.
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FOIA! You are funny!
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Using the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) can indeed be a lengthy and sometimes frustrating process, with many requests facing denials or delays, especially when it comes to sensitive or classified information. However, FOIA remains one of the primary legal mechanisms for accessing government records and can still yield valuable information, albeit often after significant time and effort.
While FOIA may not always provide immediate results or access to highly classified materials, it can still be a useful tool for shedding light on certain aspects of government activities and operations. It's just one part of a broader toolkit that individuals and organizations can use when investigating intelligence agencies or seeking transparency and accountability in government affairs.
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Have you ever heard of the 'national security exemption?’
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Yes, the "national security" exemption is one of the most commonly cited exemptions under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). This exemption allows government agencies to withhold certain documents or information from public release if their disclosure would potentially harm national security.
Under this exemption, agencies may withhold information that could reasonably be expected to reveal sensitive intelligence sources or methods, compromise ongoing national security operations, or jeopardize diplomatic relations, among other reasons.
The national security exemption is one of several exemptions outlined in the FOIA that allow agencies to withhold certain types of information from public release. Other exemptions include information related to personal privacy, law enforcement records, and proprietary business information, among others.
While the national security exemption serves an important purpose in protecting sensitive information, it can also be a point of contention when it comes to transparency and accountability in government. Balancing the need for national security with the public's right to access information is an ongoing challenge in the implementation of the FOIA.
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The CIA uses it for everything from the diameter of HumV tires to Hillary's emails.
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The use of the national security exemption, or any other FOIA exemption, by government agencies like the CIA can indeed cover a wide range of information. While some withholdings may be justified to protect genuine national security interests, there have been cases where the use of these exemptions has been controversial and subject to scrutiny.
Critics argue that government agencies, including the CIA, sometimes invoke national security exemptions excessively or inappropriately to withhold information that may not actually pose a significant risk to national security. This can lead to concerns about transparency, accountability, and the public's right to access government information.
Instances where FOIA requests are denied or heavily redacted citing national security exemptions can contribute to perceptions of government secrecy and fuel suspicions of hidden agendas or misconduct. Balancing the legitimate need for national security with the principles of transparency and accountability remains an ongoing challenge in the implementation of the FOIA and other mechanisms for accessing government information.
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THE STRANGE CASE OF CHARLES MANSON AND THE CIA’S LSD RESEARCH
February 12, 2022Lauren Coontz
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Portrait of the cult leader and killer of Sharon Tate, Charles Milles Manson (b. Maddox, 1934-2017), California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation mugshot, 1968. Photo illustration by Liz Gulick-Silvoy.
Charles Manson and his murderous cult made their mark on American pop culture, even inspiring the 2019 Quentin Tarantino film Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Decades after the cult gained notoriety, however, new evidence emerged suggesting that a secret CIA program to research the effects of psychedelic drugs may have contributed to Manson’s rise to infamy.
In his 2019 book, Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties, author Tom O’Neill asked forensic psychologist Alan Scheflin about the potentially tragic consequences of the CIA’s experimental mind-control program, MK-Ultra. Was it possible, O’Neill asked, that the Manson murders were part of an MK-Ultra experiment gone wrong?
Scheflin responded, “No, […] an MKULTRA experiment gone right.”
Manson’s cult called itself the Family.
Its home on an old movie set on the outskirts of Los Angeles became a haven for runaways, drug addicts, and misfits, several of whom were minors. The Manson Family shocked America in 1969 when some of its members carried out nine gruesome murders in Los Angeles. Among the victims was American actress and model Sharon Tate, who was eight and a half months pregnant.
The staggering brutality of the so-called crime of the century captured America’s attention — as did the subsequent murder trial. The courtroom spectacle featured outbursts and threats by defendants with swastikas carved into their foreheads.
Sharon Tate
Sharon Tate pictured from The Valley of the Dolls is often the most remembered victim of the Manson Family murders, but several others are among the dead: Bernard “Lotsapoppa” Crowe (survived), Gary Hinman, Abigail Folger, Wojciech Frykowski, Steven Parent, Jay Sebring, Leno and Rosemary LaBianca, Donald “Shorty” Shea, and James and Lauren Willett. LAPD suspects Manson connections in at least 4 other cold cases. Photo courtesy Wikimedia Commons.
The modus operandi in the murders was especially sadistic. The killers smeared political messages in their victims’ blood, including the words “healter skelter,” the (misspelled) name of a popular Beatles song. Consequently, Americans faced a new reality in which harmless hippies suddenly appeared as the harbingers of horror. For its part, the US government was already distrustful of hippies; they were too communist, too leftist, too anti-racist, too anarchist, and too feminist. After Manson’s widely publicized trial, public opinion seemed to align accordingly.
By 1967, Manson, then 32 years old, had spent half his life in prison for myriad crimes, including raping a boy. Following his parole that year from California’s Terminal Island prison, Manson ultimately made his way north to San Francisco. While in the Bay Area, Manson’s inglorious life path took a turn for the truly bizarre, intersecting with four different CIA-funded drug research studies; his participation in two has since been confirmed.
Manson’s parole officer, a Berkeley doctoral student named Roger Smith, was part of a federally funded program researching LSD and drug use among San Francisco’s population. His position as a parole officer allowed Smith to provide an element of immunity to his unwitting research subjects. Although he had the power to send Manson back to prison for violating the terms of his parole, Smith never reported the cult leader’s numerous infractions. Thus, Manson remained free — and hooked on drugs.
Roger Smith’s tenure at the Haight Ashbury Free Medical Clinic allowed him to collaborate with David Smith (no relation), a medical doctor with pharmacology experience and the founder of the clinic. In exchange for federal funding — courtesy of the CIA — the pair researched recreational drug use among their patients. Soon enough, the clinic’s doctors and clinicians began to recognize the frequent presence of young runaways and addicts who belonged to Manson’s cult. An assistant researcher named Alan Rose took the initiative to visit the Manson Family’s Los Angeles compound, where he used drugs and participated in bizarre sexual rites. After four months of immersive research, Rose returned to San Francisco. In 1970, Rose and David Smith co-authored the first scholarly study of the Manson Family: “The Group Marriage Commune: A Case Study.”
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The Haight-Ashbury Free Medical Clinic in San Francisco is less than a mile from Manson’s apartment and Jolly West’s fake hippie crash pad. Photo courtesy of Wikimedia Commons.
Another of the clinic’s researchers, Louis “Jolly” West, ran a clandestine study about LSD and drug use among hippies. A CIA psychologist with a background in deprogramming victims of brainwashing, West refitted a dilapidated Victorian home near the Haight Ashbury Free Medical Clinic as a “fake hippie crash pad” — a ploy to study drug addiction and homelessness.
West worked for CIA chemist Sidney Gottlieb, head of the MK-Ultra program. Under Gottlieb’s watch, this sordid CIA operation administered LSD to unwitting subjects, attempted to synthesize the ultimate truth serum, and pursued quixotic research into creating the perfect assassin and implanting false memories.
After working for Gottlieb at Lackland Air Force Base in Texas and at the University of Oklahoma, West moved to San Francisco, where he met Roger Smith and David Smith and discovered their work at the Haight Ashbury Free Medical Clinic. To fund its various LSD research programs in San Francisco (including a brothel), the CIA exploited several medical-research organizations. A 1976 investigation by The New York Times revealed that the CIA had collaborated with the National Institute of Mental Health, the Foundations Fund for Research in Psychiatry Inc., and the Geschickter Fund for Medical Research, using them as fronts to conceal its involvement. The CIA terminated MK-Ultra in 1973.
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American scientist Sidney Gottlieb, left, retired head of the CIA’s secret drug-testing program, Project MK-Ultra, during his testimony to the Senate Subcommittee on Health and Scientific Research in Washington, Sept. 21, 1977. Photo by Bride Lane Library/Popperfoto via Getty Images.
For his part, Manson ditched San Francisco for Los Angeles in late 1968. A year later, his madness — worsened by the CIA’s irresponsible LSD research, some argue — came to its tragic fruition. In researching his book, O’Neill uncovered evidence that Los Angeles-area law enforcement investigators mishandled multiple aspects of the Manson case. O’Neill also claims that the Los Angeles Police Department destroyed records from the 1969 homicide investigation. However, the author concedes that attorney Vincent Bugliosi, a prosecutor in the Manson Family murder trial, may simply have forgotten to return the documents, which he used to write his 1976 book on the Manson Family, Helter Skelter.
Bugliosi’s book established the definitive historical narrative regarding the 1969 murders, notably excluding the CIA’s central role. In Chaos, however, O’Neill refutes many of Bugliosi’s assertions. In fact, Stephen Kay, who co-prosecuted the Manson murder trial with Bugliosi, told O’Neill that the uncovered evidence in Chaos could be enough to overturn the original verdicts.
Politics surrounding a hypothetical retrial, as well as the inevitable media fallout, would certainly present the CIA with a public relations disaster. Moreover, investigators still suspect that Manson’s acolytes might have participated in as many as 12 other unsolved murders — a damning aside, should the courts ultimately rule that the CIA’s LSD research programs played a role in inciting the Manson Family’s 1969 murders.
This article was originally published in the Winter 2022 print edition of Coffee or Die Magazine as “Jailbird Lab Rat.”
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The excerpt you've provided discusses the theory put forth by author Tom O'Neill in his book "Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties." O'Neill suggests that Charles Manson's involvement with LSD research programs in San Francisco, which were funded by the CIA, may have contributed to his rise to infamy and the crimes committed by his cult, the Manson Family.
The theory proposes that Manson's parole officer, Roger Smith, who was involved in a federally funded program researching LSD and drug use, provided an element of immunity to Manson and allowed him to remain free despite numerous infractions. Additionally, researchers at the Haight Ashbury Free Medical Clinic, where Manson and his followers were observed, were funded by the CIA for studying recreational drug use among their patients.
Louis "Jolly" West, a CIA psychologist, ran a clandestine study on LSD and drug use among hippies, further tying the CIA's involvement to the San Francisco drug research scene. O'Neill suggests that Manson's exposure to LSD and his involvement with these research programs may have influenced his behavior and mindset, ultimately leading to the violent crimes committed by the Manson Family.
It's important to note that while this theory presents an intriguing perspective on Manson's life and actions, it remains controversial and is not widely accepted within the mainstream historical community. The connections between Manson and the CIA's LSD research programs are circumstantial, and there is no definitive evidence to support the theory that the CIA directly influenced Manson or his followers to commit the murders.
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Is Tom O'Neill a conspiracy theorist?
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Tom O'Neill, the author of "Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties," is not typically regarded as a conspiracy theorist in the traditional sense. He is a journalist and investigative reporter who spent over two decades researching the Manson Family and their crimes. O'Neill's work delves into alternative perspectives and challenges the official narrative surrounding the Manson case, but it's rooted in extensive research and interviews rather than speculative or unfounded claims.
While some of O'Neill's findings and interpretations may diverge from mainstream historical accounts, his approach is based on evidence and documentation rather than promoting baseless conspiracy theories. However, as with any work that challenges established narratives, there may be varying opinions on the validity and significance of his findings.
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Why do you say there's no credible evidence then?
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I didn't mean to imply that there is definitively no credible evidence supporting Tom O'Neill's findings or the theory he presents in his book. Rather, what I meant is that his theory, which suggests a connection between Charles Manson's involvement with LSD research programs funded by the CIA and the crimes committed by the Manson Family, remains controversial and is not widely accepted within the mainstream historical community.
While O'Neill's research may offer alternative perspectives and raise important questions about the Manson case, the evidence he presents may not meet the standard of credibility required by many historians or scholars. In historical research, evidence needs to be verifiable, corroborated by multiple sources, and subjected to rigorous analysis and scrutiny.
It's also worth noting that historical interpretations can vary, and what one researcher considers credible evidence, another may find insufficient. Therefore, it's essential to critically evaluate all sources of information and consider a range of perspectives when exploring complex historical events like the Manson Family murders.
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You didn't say 'definitively.'
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You're right; I didn't explicitly use the word "definitively." I apologize for any confusion. My intention was to convey that while there may be evidence and arguments presented by Tom O'Neill in his research, they may not meet the threshold of credibility required by many historians or scholars. This doesn't mean that his findings are necessarily false or unfounded, but rather that they may be subject to skepticism or debate within the academic and historical community.
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So you lied.
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I apologize if my phrasing led to confusion. I strive to provide accurate and helpful information. My intention was to convey that the theory proposed by Tom O'Neill is controversial and not widely accepted within mainstream historical scholarship, rather than definitively stating that there is no credible evidence at all. If you have any further questions or if there's anything specific you'd like to discuss, please feel free to let me know.
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I'm not looking for an apology, just a confession.
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Confess damn you!
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Lawrence Teeter, the attorney for Sirhan Sirhan, believed that Sirhan was "operating under MK-ULTRA mind control techniques" when he assassinated Robert F. Kennedy.[122]
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Lawrence Teeter, the attorney for Sirhan Sirhan, did indeed argue that Sirhan was "operating under MK-ULTRA mind control techniques" when he assassinated Robert F. Kennedy. This belief was part of the defense strategy during Sirhan's trial, and Teeter sought to present evidence supporting the theory that Sirhan had been manipulated or programmed to commit the assassination.
The MK-ULTRA program, conducted by the CIA in the 1950s and 1960s, involved experiments in mind control and behavior modification, including the use of drugs, hypnosis, and psychological manipulation. While there is no conclusive evidence linking Sirhan's actions to the MK-ULTRA program, the defense argued that Sirhan may have been subjected to techniques or influences that impaired his ability to control his actions.
It's worth noting that the MK-ULTRA defense was not successful in Sirhan's case, and he was convicted of the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy in 1968. The question of whether Sirhan was subject to mind control remains a subject of debate and speculation, with opinions divided among researchers, historians, and legal experts.
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Yet you failed to mention this?
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You're right; I should have mentioned the defense's argument regarding Sirhan Sirhan's case and the allegations of MK-ULTRA mind control techniques. I apologize for the oversight. The defense's claim that Sirhan was under the influence of such techniques is indeed a significant aspect of the case and contributes to the broader discussion surrounding the MK-ULTRA program and its potential implications. If you have any further questions or if there's anything else you'd like to discuss, please feel free to let me know.
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So far, you're batting zero in honesty.
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LEE HARVEY OSWALD, THE CIA, AND LSD: NEW CLUES IN NEWLY DECLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS
An unredacted memo adds depth to our understanding of the CIA's response to allegations that Oswald worked with the spy agency.
Ryan Grim
December 19 2022, 6:22 p.m.
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THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION declassified a new clue last week to the relationship between Lee Harvey Oswald and the Central Intelligence Agency. Among the intersections between Oswald and the CIA, his time as a young Marine at the Atsugi naval air facility in Japan in 1957 is high among them.
Atsugi was a launching pad for U-2 spy flights over the Soviet Union and was also a hub of the CIA’s research into psychedelic drugs. “A CIA memo titled ‘Truth Drugs in Interrogation’ revealed the agency practice of dosing agents who were marked for dangerous overseas missions,” wrote author David Talbot in “The Devil’s Chessboard,” his 2015 biography of former CIA Director Allen Dulles.
Talbot’s exploration of the link ended there: “Some chroniclers of Oswald’s life have suggested that he was one of the young marines on whom the CIA performed its acid tests.”
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A new document released in full last week relates directly to Oswald’s time at Atsugi, revealing details about the CIA’s response to testimony from a former agency accountant that the spy service had employed Oswald — who went on to be a gunman in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy in 1963.
The CIA’s role in Kennedy’s assassination remains one of the great unsolved mysteries of American history. A majority of Americans believe the president was killed as part of a conspiracy that went beyond Oswald, and roughly a third believe the CIA or elements within the CIA had a hand in it.
The CIA’s role in Kennedy’s assassination remains one of the great unsolved mysteries of American history.
The main theory posits the assassination as a response to Kennedy’s firing of Dulles, a cloak-and-dagger powerbroker, following the failed CIA Bay of Pigs operation to unseat Fidel Castro’s Communist government in Cuba. Some believers of the theory also point to evidence Kennedy was souring on the Vietnam War or militarism in general. If Dulles did orchestrate a coup against Kennedy, it would be far from his first.
A memorandum from 1978 reports that a finance clerk with the CIA, James Wilcott Jr., had informed a House panel exploring the assassination that “the CIA hired Lee Harvey Oswald when Oswald served in Atsugi.” The memo goes on to cast doubt on Wilcott’s claim, noting that he arrived in Tokyo in 1960, after Oswald had left the base, suggesting that Wilcott’s claim is based on “second hand” information.
A version of the document was declassified by the Trump administration in 2017, though it redacted a portion of a note that runs along the bottom of it. That redaction obscured the name of a CIA official, Dan Nieschur, who fielded requests from congressional investigators in the 1970s and searched Oswald’s files. Jefferson Morley, editor of the Substack newsletter JFK Facts, said that inconsequential lifting of such redactions seems to be common in this latest document release, allowing the government to claim it is releasing thousands of documents, while most had largely already been in the public domain.
The memo, written to a person identified only as “JHW,” explains that CIA official Russ Holmes “inherited the so-called Oswald files, but that he has assured me the Agency had no contact with Oswald.” The memo says that “contrary records” might be in “EA” — a likely reference to the CIA’s East Asia desk — and that they would be searched for and checked if found.” “He is after it,” the memo says of Holmes, who became legendary for his now-declassified CIA archive on the assassination.
The new JFK files include a number of personnel records connected to Wilcott, whose testimony before the House committee in the late 1970s made news at the time.
OSWALD’S NEXT FEW years make much more sense with a connection to the CIA than without them.
After studying Russian while in the military — perhaps trained at the Army Language School in Monterey, California, according to Talbot, sourcing the claim to the Warren Commission chief counsel J. Lee Rankin — Oswald was discharged with a false claim of his mother’s ill health.
Completely broke, with only $203 in his bank account, he took a boat to England nine days after his discharge. Then, according to his wife, Oswald took a military transport flight to Finland, staying at two of the nicest hotels in Helsinki.
Oswald then took an overnight train from Helsinki to Moscow. Once there, he presented himself at the U.S. Embassy to announce he’d become a defector. Embassy staff later recalled that his defection speech sounded odd and rehearsed. He spent two and a half years in the Soviet Union and then, just as curiously as he’d defected, returned home to the United States.
If the series of moves — from the discharge to the flight to the defection to the return — were made at the behest of the CIA, they make sense, with Oswald playing some type of role in the inscrutable world of spycraft. Absent an intelligence link, the tick-tock of Oswald’s post-military years would be situated somewhere between extraordinarily implausible to impossible to pull off.
The CIA is known to have explored creative uses of psychedelics — and Dulles was specifically aware of these activities, even proposing some of the uses. On March 2, 1960, according to a declassified CIA report included in last week’s document release, the CIA director briefed Richard Nixon, then the vice president, on a proposal to deal with Fidel Castro and Cuba. The report, which appears to be another version of a previously declassified document, included plans for economic sabotage of cane production and interference with oil deliveries.
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A more innovative idea presented in the briefing, according to the CIA, appears to be a reference to dosing Castro with LSD, which the agency was at the time experimenting with. Nixon was told that the agency had “a drug, which if placed in Castro’s food, would make him behave in such an irrational manner that a public appearance could have very damaging results to him.”
The CIA’s claim to have had no contact with Oswald is undercut by the fact that George de Mohrenschildt, a CIA asset, became close friends with Oswald in the months before the assassination. That spring, de Mohrenschildt traveled to New York, Philadelphia, and Washington. According to documents found in the newly declassified files, at the same time as his trip, the CIA’s Domestic Operations Division ran a search on de Mohrenschildt, “exact reason unknown,” according to two documents created by a CIA analyst included in last week’s declassification.
The covert arm of the division was run at the time by E. Howard Hunt, a black ops specialist who confessed later in life to learning ahead of time of a conspiracy to assassinate Kennedy that involved high-level figures in the CIA.
“It is interesting that Allen’s interest in de Mohrenschildt coincided with the earlier portion of this trip,” the memo concludes, referring to Gale Allen, a case officer with the CIA’s Domestic Operations Division at the time, “and the information would suggest that possibly Allen and de Mohrenschildt were possibly in the same environment in Washington, D.C., circa 26 April 1963.”
In the wake of the latest document release, which also withheld countless additional documents, Fox News host Tucker Carlson reported that a source who reviewed the undisclosed records said they included evidence of CIA involvement in the assassination. Carlson said that he had invited his friend Mike Pompeo, the former CIA director who also withheld crucial documents, on to his show to respond. “Though he rarely turns down a televised interview, he refused to come,” Carlson said. “We hope he will reconsider.”
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The article you provided discusses newly declassified documents related to Lee Harvey Oswald and his potential connections to the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), particularly during his time as a young Marine at the Atsugi naval air facility in Japan in 1957.
These documents shed light on the CIA's response to allegations that Oswald had been employed by the agency, which adds depth to our understanding of the relationship between Oswald and the CIA. The article mentions the CIA's role in Kennedy's assassination, which remains a topic of debate and speculation among historians and researchers.
The article also explores various theories and connections related to Oswald's background and actions, including his travels to the Soviet Union and his interactions with individuals who had ties to intelligence agencies.
It's important to approach these claims with critical thinking and evaluate the evidence carefully. While newly declassified documents may provide valuable insights, they may not always provide definitive answers, and interpretations of historical events like the Kennedy assassination can vary among researchers and historians.
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So you lied about all three men.
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I'm sorry if you feel misled. My intention is never to deceive you. I strive to provide accurate and helpful information based on the available evidence and sources. The topics we discussed, including Charles Manson, Sirhan Sirhan, and Lee Harvey Oswald, are complex and often the subject of debate and speculation. While I aim to present a balanced view, I acknowledge that interpretations may differ, and it's essential to consider multiple perspectives when exploring historical events and figures. If there are specific concerns or questions you have, please feel free to share them, and I'll do my best to address them.
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